Comments on: Halal Chicken While You Wait http://www.bingregory.com/archives/2007/01/08-halal-chicken-while-you-wait/ Official Organ of an American Muslim in Malaysia Thu, 20 Nov 2008 12:43:51 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.3 by: Bin Gregory http://www.bingregory.com/archives/2007/01/08-halal-chicken-while-you-wait/#comment-8617 Thu, 29 Mar 2007 03:04:43 +0000 http://www.bingregory.com/archives/2007/01/08-halal-chicken-while-you-wait/#comment-8617 Hi Aida, Yes, I am still at 5. Number six is due in July. What part of Kuching? Hi Aida,

Yes, I am still at 5. Number six is due in July. What part of Kuching?

]]> by: aida http://www.bingregory.com/archives/2007/01/08-halal-chicken-while-you-wait/#comment-8587 Tue, 27 Mar 2007 18:35:07 +0000 http://www.bingregory.com/archives/2007/01/08-halal-chicken-while-you-wait/#comment-8587 hello thanks for dropping by my blog. i am from kuching so its nice to read the views from the other side of the fence. this may sound weird, but you have 6 or still 5 kids now? hello

thanks for dropping by my blog. i am from kuching so its nice to read the views from the other side of the fence. this may sound weird, but you have 6 or still 5 kids now?

]]> by: Takumi http://www.bingregory.com/archives/2007/01/08-halal-chicken-while-you-wait/#comment-6836 Fri, 19 Jan 2007 23:40:14 +0000 http://www.bingregory.com/archives/2007/01/08-halal-chicken-while-you-wait/#comment-6836 Bin, you're absolutely right. The santan, gula melaka and all those tepung beras and tepung gandum will really make you grow: SIDEWAYS! LOL. My mom used to joke about my grandad (Allah's mercy be on him) when he used to come and eat with us, "Your grandpa just received the PJK" Well, PJK is like a medal of honor that stands for Pingat Jasa Kebaktian (The Charity Medal) but in my grandpa's case and any other Malaysian out there it was Perut Jauh Kehadapan (Stomach Way Out there!). :-) Bin, you’re absolutely right. The santan, gula melaka and all those tepung beras and tepung gandum will really make you grow: SIDEWAYS! LOL. My mom used to joke about my grandad (Allah’s mercy be on him) when he used to come and eat with us, “Your grandpa just received the PJK” Well, PJK is like a medal of honor that stands for Pingat Jasa Kebaktian (The Charity Medal) but in my grandpa’s case and any other Malaysian out there it was Perut Jauh Kehadapan (Stomach Way Out there!). :-)

]]> by: Umm-fi-ard http://www.bingregory.com/archives/2007/01/08-halal-chicken-while-you-wait/#comment-6830 Fri, 19 Jan 2007 11:17:00 +0000 http://www.bingregory.com/archives/2007/01/08-halal-chicken-while-you-wait/#comment-6830 takumi, I love yong taufu and taufoofar but I found a thingy (made from soya), a vegetarian friend once gave me a bit bland and tasteless. She said she wasnt gonna be vegetarian and the next minute she was and attending antiwar/nuclear rallies. nnydd, I was in US near the Gulf coast for almost a month and I did have the opportunity to go to supermarket and cook vege, fish etc. What I meant was travellers passing through town esp wnen they have no time to cook or go to supermarket or they lack funds and I know and every body knows airport food are so expensive. I did a far bit of travelling via rail in Europe when I was a student. We brought our own cans of tuna but forgot to bring an efficient can opener. We managed on bread and cheese and sometimes tuna when we could open the can. A poor homeless traveller in Prague gave us some tinned food after we finished solah once (It was like God answered our prayers for food? )but we werent sure what it was so we gave it back to him plus bread/sandwiches when he was sleeping at the station. It is not really a biggy but sometimes I wanna be able to sample some local food to enjoy my travels. Not bring my own instant food. Salads, seafood and soups are great but oily/ fried chips are too much sometimes. bingregory has a point. I get a lot of forward mail (some possibly rumors) concerning this and that restaurant not serving halal or dont have halal certification. What about cleanliness and hygiene ? Don't we Malaysians care about hygiene ? I mean some people can just continue to eat while a big rat pass by in front of them. I think food preparation should be hygienic and would like the eateries in KL to get a clean hygienic certificate too and display it if possible. takumi,
I love yong taufu and taufoofar but I found a thingy (made from soya), a vegetarian friend once gave me a bit bland and tasteless. She said she wasnt gonna be vegetarian and the next minute she was and attending antiwar/nuclear rallies.
nnydd,
I was in US near the Gulf coast for almost a month and I did have the opportunity to go to supermarket and cook vege, fish etc. What I meant was travellers passing through town esp wnen they have no time to cook or go to supermarket or they lack funds and I know and every body knows airport food are so expensive. I did a far bit of travelling via rail in Europe when I was a student. We brought our own cans of tuna but forgot to bring an efficient can opener. We managed on bread and cheese and sometimes tuna when we could open the can. A poor homeless traveller in Prague gave us some tinned food after we finished solah once (It was like God answered our prayers for food? )but we werent sure what it was so we gave it back to him plus bread/sandwiches when he was sleeping at the station. It is not really a biggy but sometimes I wanna be able to sample some local food to enjoy my travels. Not bring my own instant food. Salads, seafood and soups are great but oily/ fried chips are too much sometimes.
bingregory has a point. I get a lot of forward mail (some possibly rumors) concerning this and that restaurant not serving halal or dont have halal certification. What about cleanliness and hygiene ? Don’t we Malaysians care about hygiene ? I mean some people can just continue to eat while a big rat pass by in front of them. I think food preparation should be hygienic and would like the eateries in KL to get a clean hygienic certificate too and display it if possible.

]]> by: Bin Gregory http://www.bingregory.com/archives/2007/01/08-halal-chicken-while-you-wait/#comment-6829 Fri, 19 Jan 2007 07:20:12 +0000 http://www.bingregory.com/archives/2007/01/08-halal-chicken-while-you-wait/#comment-6829 Hah! I think it would be fair to say that, or to rephrase, that criticism is an important part of Western culture. But I wasn't picking on anybody, I think, and if I was critical, it was meant to be constructive. I think there is an issue, namely that many US muslims take the position that chicken and beef of the Christians and Jews is permissible to those muslims in the West without a halal option. The interesting thing here is that "without a halal option" is construed very liberally by lots of western muslims, whereas plenty of Malays won't accept the dispensation at all and would prefer to simply give up meat or greatly reduce their consumption. I'm not criticizing anyone here: I genuinely think it is an interesting difference in emphasis. It is an important issue for converts as well, because it affects the ease with which we maintain family ties with our non-muslim relatives. The second issue is about the rumors and scares that circulate about food (here in Malaysia, but elsewhere too): boycotting a business or product on the basis of hearsay can cross the line from piety to blameworthy suspicion. I boycotted a halal butcher near my house in Michigan on the basis of a rumor from a friend (Malaysian, though that's not my point) that the source of his meat wasn't halal, only to find out a year later that he was buying his meat from the same muslim wholesalers in Detroit as everybody else. Now, I hope I gain reward for my intention to avoid the haram, but clearly I hurt this brother's business for over a year for no good reason. I think there's an issue there. Shouldn't we have husnul dhun, an inclination to assume the best? Hah! I think it would be fair to say that, or to rephrase, that criticism is an important part of Western culture.

But I wasn’t picking on anybody, I think, and if I was critical, it was meant to be constructive. I think there is an issue, namely that many US muslims take the position that chicken and beef of the Christians and Jews is permissible to those muslims in the West without a halal option. The interesting thing here is that “without a halal option” is construed very liberally by lots of western muslims, whereas plenty of Malays won’t accept the dispensation at all and would prefer to simply give up meat or greatly reduce their consumption. I’m not criticizing anyone here: I genuinely think it is an interesting difference in emphasis. It is an important issue for converts as well, because it affects the ease with which we maintain family ties with our non-muslim relatives.

The second issue is about the rumors and scares that circulate about food (here in Malaysia, but elsewhere too): boycotting a business or product on the basis of hearsay can cross the line from piety to blameworthy suspicion. I boycotted a halal butcher near my house in Michigan on the basis of a rumor from a friend (Malaysian, though that’s not my point) that the source of his meat wasn’t halal, only to find out a year later that he was buying his meat from the same muslim wholesalers in Detroit as everybody else. Now, I hope I gain reward for my intention to avoid the haram, but clearly I hurt this brother’s business for over a year for no good reason. I think there’s an issue there. Shouldn’t we have husnul dhun, an inclination to assume the best?

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